Even my own voice is one opinion and shouldn’t be considered the be-all-end-all of any discussion. I’ve owned several of the earlier revisions and like the new MW the best. They both sound like rectos. I spend a lot of time proving this one wrong. The concepts weren’t well thought or my conclusions were wrong. Great amps and can be had for reasonable prices until everyone else’s nostalgia kicks in! After admiring the brand for so long I end up finding a lot of cheaper amps doing the rectifier thing in a much more usable manner…5153 and peavey xxx/jsx come to mind. Thanks. You must log in or register to reply here. That's sexy.
The stock FX Loop is not great, in my opinion, and the distortion at high Gain settings can be unwieldy and unfocused. C on the road. If they used smaller coupling caps and bothered to cut bass the same way they do add the fake pressence knob on modern mode they could do something better. Mark IV (revision B) Dual Rectifier (2 channel) chrome/chrome #27** Revision F (SOLD) Dual Rectifier (2 channel) #2** Revision C Pre-500 ... Mesa Boogie Engineering Products ↳ Vintage Amps (Before 1991) ↳ Mark Series ↳ Dual Caliber ↳ Modern Era Amps (1991-Present) Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Can the new multi watt dual recto’s do all the Tremoverb tones (minus the trem/reverb)? As C ;D ; E and F have a And They also allowed for no negative feedback. Very good cleams though. The older you go the more useless the clean channel is but the tighter the gain channels get. Those are the tones that most people associate with the amp. People can make opinionated statements all day, but the truth is right in the schematic and can be easily shown.
The rectifier is a bad amp.
The wonderful Multi-Watt Dual (and indeed Triple) Rectifiers neatly encompass all that is great about this heritage, packaging tone and responsiveness to match the early revisions alongside the greatest level of flexibility yet available. the revision is marked on the motherboard. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. ( Log Out / I had a series 1 rectoverb (incarnation) and, while it was good, it really didn’t have the grind and aggressivity of the duals. However, it sounds just fantastic.
Changing those aforementioned coupling caps would tighten things up considerably. Part of the say on the Recto is due to the screen voltage circuit. I’m a little surprise because when I Google search the older models there’s so many post that say they are so awesome. Biases and myths also fit in with the misinformation, but are just as much about the insecurities of the users as any misunderstanding of the amplifier. In fact there is much more than the Pff…. Then there’s the notion of magical parts that give the first 3 revisions a “mojo”. 1992 Dual Rectifier Revision F Owners Manual (Original) Rare Sat, May 12, 2012 3:20am This is the original "Operating Instructions and Owners Manual" that came with the 1st year production of the Dual Rectifier in 1992. To reiterate a previous article, just because a mod can be done, doesn’t mean it absolutely should be done. too. For some people this is the reason why Pre500 sounds better As much as I like Dirt from Alice In Chains and love the low Recto parts on it, Jerry Cantrell never took a Rev. * All S/N are subject to change because If I was a little more cynical, I’d even think the second hand market is involved in promoting and spreading this kind of bias to increase, and retain the increases on, the obsolete designs.
by rjf » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:10 pm, Post The First 220/240 Dual Rectifier released are Rev-C. there is no rules about it. Schumacher transformers. In fact, if you look through my site, I’m constantly sharing information and settings to get a wide variety of tones. To say that 500 or so amplifiers are supreme to the tens of thousands of other amplifiers and The Recto™ sound as heard on most albums or at most live shows doesn’t make any bit of sense. F, Rev. Thanks to Elpelotero from BBoard forum Good in its own right and way but not the same at all. It isn’t hard to dial in a variety of sounds if a person knows what the controls are doing. No matter which version a person owns, each version has its merits and demerits, the same as any other amp, and can provide a wonderful satisfaction to the user if their goals intersect with the strength of their tools. They are very lucky ot have guys like petrucci and several nu metal guys supporting them. I played that thing a ton in the late 90s / early 2000s. When I was on the hunt, I went with a Tremoverb head. My experience is similar to Wizard of Ozz's. I recently picked up a ‘94 Revision G and I’m really happy with it. You give up a little meat on the gain channels but if you don't have the 2 to a/b you'd never know what you're missing. That’s its charm. The Trem-O-Verb follow the same rules than Rev-G. Schumacher Transformers can be recognized They made a lot of stuff switchable but they couldn’t do a tight mode switchable??? Overall, a Rev. The first Dual Rectifier S/N: R0001 is No question as to which is better imho. It could be that the amp is truly not what you need. The chrome diamond-plate grille, textured black vinyl covering, leather corners, polished knobs, and standard Mesa/Boogie and Dual Rectifier … Seeing as how Mesa designs them, builds them, markets them, receives feedback, and profits most from the sales, if the old amps were superior, they’d swap directly back to it due to customer demands and complaints. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You get the blues mode which is awesome, though. My amp is now obsolete. Different Revision of the motherboard has been released between 1992 and 93. A smaller transformer loses on bass but allows more treble. attached), Schumacher Transformers can be recognized
I’m looking to get one of the amps of my childhood dreams.
The multi is definitely the best sounding of the lot. However, a variety of other tones are there to be found. The aggressive or incredibly distorted tones don’t need a lot of explaining.
That only holds true if the changes weren’t done to make the amp cheaper, which was clearly the driving force behind the Rev F (and its awesome Schumacher transformer) to Rev G (with its cheapo tranny) changes. It’s a chronic condition and it effects my memory and concentration. Metallica never really embraced the rectifier. There is a very good reason the early ones are sought after; Rev F and earlier simply sound much better than Rev G and newer. Do the new Dual Rectifiers nail the classic tones of the old ones from the 90’s? As a matter of fact, they didn’t go back. Editorial: Dual Rectifier Revisions and Versions Posted: September 16, 2015 in Cork Sniffer Heresy, Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier, Vanity and other sins Tags: amp, biases, debunk, dual, Dual Rectifier, engineering, getting tones, help, Mesa, modification, mods, Myths, Settings, Tone, Tube amp, use. Even comparing a Rev. The Peavey is its own circuit though. “Seeing as how Mesa designs them, builds them, markets them, receives feedback, and profits most from the sales, if the old amps were superior, they’d swap directly back to it due to customer demands and complaints.”. It's different and there are very few of these around. I really think vintage mode is weak. Rather than talk about subjective measurements, I’m providing analyses for the modes and for the amp in general by looking at the circuit. For electronics, I’ve been building easy pedals. Get the one that fills that need. only protypes. But that is another thing. I played that thing a ton in the late 90s / early 2000s. Claims about early revisions being “superior” or the utility of the 2001 3 Channel version are as ridiculous as the circuit misinformation, because it’s all subjective. There were more articles, but I deleted them. I'm betting if you call Boogie and ask, you're going to find out #1544 made a trip back to Boogie and had to have the board replaced with a Revision G board. I’ve been using it with a Mesa 2x12 or a Two Notes Captor with Recto 4x12 IRs. MESA/Boogie is a leading innovator of guitar amplification technology whose product line includes the Mark V®, Dual and Triple Rectifier®, Lone Star®, TransAtlantic®, Mini Rectifier®, and most recently the new Mark Five: 25™, CabClone™, King Snake™, Recto®-Verb™ 25, Bass Prodigy™ Four:88, Bass Strategy™ Eight:88™, and full line of overdrive and now equalizer pedals. ( Log Out / The large coupling cap from the PI hit the bias resistor for the screens and sends the amp into a long bias excursion; something like 4 seconds. That can take some time to get used to. Since I wrote the articles, I’ve read Richard Kuehnel’s books about guitar amps. While I feel that an old design is worthy of being dissected and shared, the new ones should be protected for the short term, for the benefit of Mesa, but I still anticipate at least being able to compare them for myself one day, if not to eventually help people with re-voicing the older amps.
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